New Computer advise

[Bert]

Cooler Master CM Storm Scout Gaming Mid Tower Case, Black

Corsair HX650, 650W ATX PSU, Active PFC, SLI Ready, Black

AMD FX-4170 Black Edition 4.2 GHz, Socket AM3+, Retail pack with fan, Bulldozer

Asus ENGTX560 Ti DCII TOP/2DI/1GD5, GeForce GTX 560 Ti Video Card, 1024MB, DDR5, PCIe-16, SLI ready

Asus SABERTOOTH 990FX Motherboard, Socket AM3+, AMD 990FX, 4xDDR3, 4xPCIe-16, 1xPCIe-1, Firewire, RAID, ATX

Corsair Dominator CMP8GX3M2A1600C8, 2x4GB, DDR3-1600, PC3-12800, CL8, DIMM

Comes to about $1550, seems good?

[Greaver]

Nope - 2500K Intel sustem still a batter buy at a similar price, and Ivy Bridge drops in two weeks amyway

Hamgover gone shortly then Ill explaon more

[Lucazader]

Yea AMD is behind the curve at the moment for gaming/enthusiast systems.
I would go for an intel setup, and as greaver said ivy bridge is dropping in a few weeks and it will be well worth the wait.
Other than that you dont need to spend $220 for 8gb of ram, you can get some good g.skill stuff for around $100.
Everything else looks good.

[Shifta]

I believe madjack is the guy to talk to

[ir.pegg]

Yeah change to 2500k and maybe a cheap $50 cooler to hit up to 4.0ghz with ease. As AMD Bulldozer was a complete flop
You can go as low as 520W, unless you're planning on SLi
The case is always personal preference, but if you do want a really good bang for buck, check out Antec one hundred

And yeah, if you can hold off 3 weeks, ivy bridge will have arrived by then and you may see price drops on sandybridge cpu's. But from what i've read, some have already been released in China and it's not really that great of improvement, just more ease for overclocking (2500k is amazing already). So the 2500k doesn't seem like it's going to outdate anytime soon

And yeah +1 hopefully madjack stumbles across this

[combust]

go here otherwise http://ozfortress.com/showthread.php?t=44493

[Bert]

Thanks alot for feed back so far, I have abit more saving to do and will have they money in 3 weeks anyway !

[Bert]

CPU Intel Core i7 3770K Ivy Bridge 3.50Ghz 8MB 95W LGA1155
CPU Cooling Corsair Hydro Series H70 Core High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 Intel Z68 Sandy Bridge Motherboard
Memory Mushkin Blackline FrostByte 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 CL9 (996995)
Hard Disk SanDisk SDSSDX-120G-G25 Extreme 120GB Solid State Drive
Optical Disk ASUS DRW-24B3ST 24X DVD Writer SATA
Video Adapter Sapphire Radeon HD7950 OC 3GB GDDR5 PCI-E3.0 (11196-02-40G
Case Corsair Graphite Series 600TM Mesh Window Black Mid Tower Chassi
Power Supply Seasonic M12D 850W 80Plus Silver Power Supply

All for about $2500, seems ok but just wanted to see what you guys think

[juke]

Will be good for at least 3 years.

Good chipset - has bug fixes applied some others don't. Personal preference would be for an Asus Mobo but Gigabyte are pretty g too, just had some bad experiences which most people don't seem to share.

Folks have been recommending Intel for SSD's lately. Not sure why, wait for one of them to post.

Are you planning to overclock? If not, get cheaper memory.

GFX is similar in price to Geforce GTX 580 which out performs it but pulls more power under load. Might want to consider which is quieter considering you have water cooling for your CPU seems a shame not to make your rig as cold as possible.

Also PSU is overkill.

[FiremanSam]

I have a 120gb 510 Intel SSD. I bought intel because they have the lowest fail rate. Several percent less than the other brands. Or at least they did when I bought it.

They also had just released the 510 which was by far the fastest out there at the time and I had the cash to burn. Do not regret.

[Bert]

Sorry yes it will be overclocked forgot to add it, was thinking about that with the PSU but I was like well maybe I wont have to buy another one down the line?

[Rekuja]

shieeeet $2500.. you sure man? you could get something for 1500-2000 that'll run smooth as fuck and last 4-5 years easy.


PSU is way too high, don't need 850

Cut the ram to 4GB, save some cash.. I have 8GB and regret it :\ pointless.

I would also recommend the 580 as Juke said, or even the 560ti that you had in your opening post. My partner has the 560 and she runs everything on max with solid frames, It's a really good card and can save you quite a bit of cash. If you have the money though, which seems like you do.. grab the 580.

chip/mobo/hdd = good.

my 2c

[s_t_r_o_b_e]

I really noticed a difference between 4GB and 8GB on BF3. Especially with an SSD with my page file off, etc

[juke]

Originally Posted by Rekuja

chip/mobo = good

^This

Get a 650w PSU by someone like Enermax/Corsair (Seasonic for a quiet one) Won't make a damn bit of difference making a quiet machine if you have a noisy GFX card then...

Your GFX is pulling max 200w, maybe a bit more if you opt for the nVidia one. CPU is ~70something HDD not that much each... so yeah, 850w is overkill for PSU, save your monies. SLI/Xfire are barely ever worth it.

[Rekuja]

Why would bf3 change at all from 4gb to 8gb... unless you're running a million things in the background :S?

[juke]

Cos it's a Piece of EA Shit.

[s_t_r_o_b_e]

Originally Posted by Rekuja

Why would bf3 change at all from 4gb to 8gb... unless you're running a million things in the background :S?

I have virtually nothing installed on my PC, so nothing runs in the background. When I had 4GB of RAM with the pagefile turned off, BF3 started crashing. 8GB = no crash. That's the only way I noticed a difference

But yeah, from what I've read you're supposed to turn the pagefile off when you use an SSD, so if you're going to sink that much cash into a new PC, don't cheap out the extra $50 it costs for more RAM IMO.

[Rekuja]

odd...

[FiremanSam]

also more ram makes you cooler at LAN parties.

[madjack]

ok ok im here

unless you like making a lot of videos or use cpu heavy software change to a 3570K, 3770K is overkill

use a z77 motherboard with the 3570K/3770K, z68 is for the 2500K family

GET AN SSD (intel, samsung or crucial) and install windows on it at the very least

650W is plenty for even 2 7950s as they draw about 180W each max


example

CPU
MOBO
RAM
VID
PSU
SSD
OPTICAL
COOLER

software/hard drives/case are up to you depending on wants/needs

chose a 7870 as they are usually within 5-10% of a 7950, are $100+ cheaper and use less power

nzxt cooler cos its cheaper than a water unit, quieter and costs less while still allowing a decent overclock

[s_t_r_o_b_e]

What's wrong with Kingston SSD? I've got a Kingston Hyper-X and it's awesome

[madjack]

nothing, but im still sceptical of anything using the older sandforce controllers after all the problems people had with OCZ

[s_t_r_o_b_e]

Ahh fair enough. Was a genuine question - I really know fuck all about this kinda thing because I only pay attention when I'm in the market for something. Which, at the moment, I'm not

[juke]

LOL didn't even bother looking at the chipset just assumed he was getting a combo. Nice catch Madjack.

[Rekuja]

kill me now

[Bert]

Originally Posted by madjack

ok ok im here

unless you like making a lot of videos or use cpu heavy software change to a 3570K, 3770K is overkill

use a z77 motherboard with the 3570K/3770K, z68 is for the 2500K family

GET AN SSD (intel, samsung or crucial) and install windows on it at the very least

650W is plenty for even 2 7950s as they draw about 180W each max


example

CPU
MOBO
RAM
VID
PSU
SSD
OPTICAL
COOLER

software/hard drives/case are up to you depending on wants/needs

chose a 7870 as they are usually within 5-10% of a 7950, are $100+ cheaper and use less power

nzxt cooler cos its cheaper than a water unit, quieter and costs less while still allowing a decent overclock

Well with that example its about 2k for the whole thing and would save me about $400 after I get a case ect, I just dont want to upgrade in like 2yrs tbh haha ! wont have this kind of money again but if something like that is good maybe go with that? sorry im kinda nub on these things !!

[Rekuja]

you should totally email computer lounge, tell them you're willing to pay 2k for a system and see what the guy puts together, then copy/paste it into this thread for opinions

[s_t_r_o_b_e]

Originally Posted by Rekuja

you should totally email computer lounge, tell them you're willing to pay 2k for a system and see what the guy puts together, then copy/paste it into this thread for opinions

That's actually a good idea. If it's a good deal, go to them. And if it's not, you'll quickly know

Also, what about PB Tech - are they still any good?

[meesham]

Originally Posted by s_t_r_o_b_e

Also, what about PB Tech - are they still any good?

There's a lot of bitching about them on GPForums, and Playtech has been dropping the ball a bit lately too apparently.

My new rig will definitely be from ComputerLounge, they know their shit and do a nice job with the cabling.

[FiremanSam]

ComputerLounge did a fuckicng AMAZING job on my rig. I don't know if it actually has cables at all! In fact I'm pretty sure it runs on pixie dust and magic.

Their build forum is a great place to get ideas on how to best spend your $$.

[Rekuja]

Yeah i have always recommended them, but like i said just email billy@computerlounge.co.nz tell him you have 2k to blow and ask whats the best he could put together.

paste it to this thread _b

[meesham]

Billy gets much nerd-love, he spec'd up my current PC. I'm also interested to see what they say, I'm looking to build a new one in the next month.