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Old 6th April 2012, 01:46 AM   #1
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Google: Project Glass

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17618495



Can you imagine how this will change the world....full hospitals everywhere
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Old 6th April 2012, 01:47 AM   #2
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Old 6th April 2012, 06:18 PM   #3
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I don't want shit popping up in face all the time ._.
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Old 6th April 2012, 07:05 PM   #4
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Like we don't have enough adverts in our face already.
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Old 6th April 2012, 08:25 PM   #5
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Like we don't have enough adverts in our face already.
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Call me a cynic but it just seems like another way for us to receive a constant stream of media BS. Get offline and outside some time eh? Our bodies are built for hunting and gathering, this sedentary electronic malais that's coming over us is sickening our human spirit IMO.
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Old 6th April 2012, 08:30 PM   #6
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probably gives you cancer too
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Old 6th April 2012, 09:07 PM   #7
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Call me a cynic but it just seems like another way for us to receive a constant stream of media BS. Get offline and outside some time eh? Our bodies are built for hunting and gathering, this sedentary electronic malais that's coming over us is sickening our human spirit IMO.
We control human evolution, nature can get fucked. We adapt to our own environment that we create. It's not the sedentary electronic malais that is killing us(although it is always good to be outside working our bodies), it is the consumerism mentality that corporations are nurturing in us.
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Old 6th April 2012, 11:18 PM   #8
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That was so dumb...
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Old 7th April 2012, 02:06 AM   #9
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The consumerism is one of the primary causes (along with laziness) of the sedentary electronic malais.
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Old 7th April 2012, 04:07 AM   #10
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Juke is totally right though.

Fat
is evolutions way of saying you're doing it wrong.

I don't believe we were ever meant to have refrigerators or microwaves.

Now before i start to sound like Tman with some 101 knowledge for you all... hear me out.

Humans are natural hunters, this is an obvious fact and anyone who doesn't believe so is a fucking moron. We were meant to hunt for our food and survive by gathering and harvesting whatever we could find, history shows this for many generations.

My uncles a doctor and you won't believe how many heavy computer users he treats on a monthly basis. People that don't get out much or even bother exercising/stretching. Heavy smartphone users and portable gaming console junkies.

Patients are usually suffering from muscle problems, aches, back pains and spinal discomfort. Hell, even blood flow, heart problems, nerve damage (ulnar nerve entrapment, carpal tunnel syndrome) shit... the list goes on.

This whole "project glass" nonsense reminds me of

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/

tldr, rant about useless crap that nobody needs and isn't good for you.

Juke is right.
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Old 7th April 2012, 11:42 AM   #11
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It looks kinda interesting and could turn a boring walk into something more interesting. But how long before there are banner ads popping up on the bottom of the view and then full page 30 second videos that play before you can view something without the ability to skip
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Old 7th April 2012, 12:21 PM   #12
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When am I ever wrong really?

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Old 7th April 2012, 12:54 PM   #13
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Humans are MEANT to live with shitty eyesight and die at 40 with no teeth. Oh wait, just because those were the conditions we evolved in doesn't mean we should live like that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalistic_fallacy

Also the sedentary lifestyle argument is something I agree with in general but is kind of retarded to apply to a computer that you take with you whereever you go (ie, outside).

Also none of yall can spell malaise

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Old 7th April 2012, 01:36 PM   #14
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Humans are MEANT to live with shitty eyesight and die at 40 with no teeth. Oh wait, just because those were the conditions we evolved in doesn't mean we should live like that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalistic_fallacy
There's good and bad when looking back through history. The good? we live longer and understand the human body a shit ton more. The bad? you pretty much said it there.

I'm just saying, the world is becoming more and more lazy and relying on technology has become the norm.

Put some 30 year old who lives on nothing but takeaway and technology, he'd be shitting his pants and questioning life if you take that away for 1 month lol.
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Old 7th April 2012, 03:44 PM   #15
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Wonder if it has porn capabilities.....
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Old 7th April 2012, 04:17 PM   #16
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Humans were also meant to sleep while it is dark - but we put paid to that with technology such as fire.

Honestly fatties are a real problem noone doubts that but we humans have spent many thousands of years finding ways to refine processes and make things easier to do - I don't see any problem with that because our ability to think up those ideas and put them into practice then share them is a core part of what makes humans great.

I see no issue with us creating tools to make survival as easy as possible - the same way I don't have an issue with medicine that saves lives that elsewise would have been lost had we not obtained that knowledge.

I have more of an issue with organised religeon than I do with the impeding technological reliance - and these days noone has an excuse to be fat because the consequences and solutions to our actions are widely known and available.

I'm currently still fat and you won't see me blaming the fact that I spend 18 hours a day in front of an lcd for that.
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Old 7th April 2012, 05:41 PM   #17
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It's not about fatties IMO, it's about lack of mental and physical activity.We don't use it, we lose it. Seems to be a misconception that using technology makes you more intelligent. As far as I can tell technology is being used to find easy answers instead of making people think.

While easy answers are nice, humanity has moved forward through courage and innovation in the face of adversity, not through making life easier for ourselves. If you want to see what happens when citisens start focusing on making life easy for themselves you should refer to a) lower kingdom of Egypt b) Greek republic c) Roman republic d) British Empire circa early 20th century e) America right now

Life is easier =/= human advancement

Life is easier = society populated by apathetic sloths

Society populated by apathetic sloths = nothing worthwhile gets done

nothing worthwhile gets done = end of current society

end of current society = anarchy for a while

anarchy for a while = hardship and advancement of the human race.

Don't see my opinion changing. History bears it out many times over. Technology might be different but we're not and a society is made up of people, not technology.

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Humans are MEANT to live with shitty eyesight and die at 40 with no teeth. Oh wait, just because those were the conditions we evolved in doesn't mean we should live like that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalistic_fallacy

Also the sedentary lifestyle argument is something I agree with in general but is kind of retarded to apply to a computer that you take with you whereever you go (ie, outside).

Also none of yall can spell malaise

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Yeah, technological advancement is not the issue I'm trying to highlight. I do agree that advances in technology have been advantageous to us as a species. The point I am trying to make is that we as a species and in our societies advance when we focus our attentions on the issues that provide the right stimuli. When we focus our advancement on things that distract, entertain or make life "easier", then we become complacent and distracting. Over consumption of media results in ignorance of reality, society beings to ignore the fundamental maintenance of problem resolution or areas for improvement that require our attention.

End result - no more society because everyone forgot about it. Either that or a society that communicates by screen. I don't see that as evolution really. I see it as us adapting our environment to our sloth.

INTELLIGENT DISCOURSE ON A SERIES OF TUBES

(in this context easier mean creating activities for ourselves that give you some kind of satisfaction with no real input or creative thought on the individuals part)
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Old 7th April 2012, 06:37 PM   #18
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Life is easier =/= human advancement

Life is easier = society populated by apathetic sloths

Society populated by apathetic sloths = nothing worthwhile gets done

nothing worthwhile gets done = end of current society

end of current society = anarchy for a while

anarchy for a while = hardship and advancement of the human race.

Don't see my opinion changing. History bears it out many times over. Technology might be different but we're not and a society is made up of people, not technology.
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Old 7th April 2012, 06:59 PM   #19
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Only when I'm yelling. The rest of the time is all lololololololololol

I'm obviously not anti tech being an IT support guy and liking gaming. The thing I think that will cause us trouble long term is the way we use it. People walking round staring at their phones, facebooking their lives. It takes away from our perception and ability to intuit the goings on in the physical world and distracts from the real issues in our communities we should be dealing with like poverty and a 'meritocratic' society where the measure of merit is the number of pixels that can be found when you click on your online banking balance. What's a pixel worth really?

Just my opinion.
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Old 7th April 2012, 07:21 PM   #20
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what's that movie called? The cartoon one where all the humans become fat and lazy and travel everywhere in floating chairs
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Old 7th April 2012, 07:28 PM   #21
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Only when I'm yelling. The rest of the time is all lololololololololol

I'm obviously not anti tech being an IT support guy and liking gaming. The thing I think that will cause us trouble long term is the way we use it. People walking round staring at their phones, facebooking their lives. It takes away from our perception and ability to intuit the goings on in the physical world and distracts from the real issues in our communities we should be dealing with like poverty and a 'meritocratic' society where the measure of merit is the number of pixels that can be found when you click on your online banking balance. What's a pixel worth really?

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Old 7th April 2012, 08:01 PM   #22
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Old 7th April 2012, 08:20 PM   #23
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Old 7th April 2012, 09:41 PM   #24
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People are lazy. We've gotten so good at it that we're getting fat.Think about it - every technological advancement is there to make life easier.
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Old 7th April 2012, 10:11 PM   #25
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While easy answers are nice, humanity has moved forward through courage and innovation in the face of adversity, not through making life easier for ourselves. If you want to see what happens when citisens start focusing on making life easy for themselves you should refer to a) lower kingdom of Egypt b) Greek republic c) Roman republic d) British Empire circa early 20th century e) America right now
Focus on making things easier, be remembered forever in history as empires of uncontested power in your era. Got it.

seriously holy shit did you even think about the examples you used?
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While easy answers are nice, humanity has moved forward through courage and innovation in the face of adversity, not through making life easier for ourselves.
I would argue that courage and innovation in the face of adversity is in fact a large subset of making life easier for ourselves. The ideal (unreachable as it is) of progress is to reach a point where there is no more adversity, which would make our lives very easy indeed.

That said, i see what you're saying about the difference between progressing ourselves as a species or society vs merely providing easy pleasures and shallow experiences that lack true value. I suspect that since the line between the two can be very thin, its an inevitable aspect of humanity and our huge range of intelligence and circumstance. Since we are flawed both individually and as a whole, we'll always struggle to look past the easy way out. The simple fact of the matter is that taking on adversity is hard and when its not necessary for survival, for many people it is just too much. Not everyone is even capable of it, let alone willing, and thats just a truth about the human race.

It creates a cycle that we have seen many times over our history, as you pointed out. But as hercule_pyro says, such empires that have fallen from a great height had to build themselves up to that height in the first place. It seems to me that society has an ebb and flow and to fight it would take measures the likes of which we have no idea, yet.

But to look at it another way, overcoming adversity and progressing as a species will always reveal or even create more adversity to overcome, in whatever form it takes. Taking the easy way out and becoming lazy, mindless drones seems to be a kind of adversity to me, one that none of our great empires or societies has overcome... again, yet. I think much of the progress we have made over the last century, particularly the worldwide connectedness we have both physically and electronically, will help lessen the impact of a fall, if/when it comes.
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Focus on making things easier, be remembered forever in history as empires of uncontested power in your era. Got it.

seriously holy shit did you even think about the examples you used?
Seriously holy shit, actually make a reasoned point. Deriding an argument is not the same thing as countering it, and a damn sight easier.

The times when the societies became complacent and self-indulgent are where they stuttered, and ultimately fell apart. Everything they're remembered for is built on foundations of effort and, in most cases blood. While people at the centres of those empires lived well, they lived well because of adversity faced the members of the society who went out and did something about the problems.
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I think hercule pyro over-reacted to Jukes poor example in the previous post. Don't take it so personally, Pyro wasnt trying to derail the thread. But your comment of "not through making life easier for ourselves" was a lie. Its actually one of the reasons society moves forward. It frees time. And with free time people can come up with the solutions to problems they face. However small or large those problems may be.

Its unfortunate that all of our inventions have got to such a "critical mass" that we are chasing such technology as the Google glasses. You have to remember that most new technology is rejected if it doesn't fix a problem. Are the google glasses going to fix a problem? I'm guessing not but it could be a steeping stone to other technology in the future such as how the glasses advanced voice software controls the computer. Its always evolving.
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Old 8th April 2012, 02:32 AM   #31
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Ah, thought so but wasn't sure. That's what this convo reminded me of, anyway.
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Old 9th April 2012, 10:27 PM   #33
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